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		<title>By: Craig Sefton</title>
		<link>http://www.futurefragments.com/2007/02/11/fabrication/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Sefton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe, thanks for all the input, bud, much appreciated.

&quot;finish what you start&quot; is going to be my new mantra!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe, thanks for all the input, bud, much appreciated.</p>
<p>&#8220;finish what you start&#8221; is going to be my new mantra!</p>
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		<title>By: Reg</title>
		<link>http://www.futurefragments.com/2007/02/11/fabrication/comment-page-1/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also - as insulting as being compared to Dan Brown is (sorry) - my point was that he has made quite a bit of dosh from worse work...  

His only real skill afaics is that he finishes what he starts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also &#8211; as insulting as being compared to Dan Brown is (sorry) &#8211; my point was that he has made quite a bit of dosh from worse work&#8230;  </p>
<p>His only real skill afaics is that he finishes what he starts.</p>
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		<title>By: Reg</title>
		<link>http://www.futurefragments.com/2007/02/11/fabrication/comment-page-1/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok - I&#039;ve re-read the bit where he comes out of the station and I&#039;m the muppet... went off on a complete tangent... ne&#039;er you mind, matey : p  It&#039;s just always a danger when you write something like this that the reader might have to backtrack a bit.

I think the trick that MacLeod manages is simply this: if it&#039;s a jacket - call it a jacket - just have it do stuff that&#039;s unusual and be casual about it. 
&#039;My jacket clung annoyingly as it attempted to seal in a little heat&#039; - badly worded but you get the idea...  Then again - you are trying to cyber it up... what the hell do i know anyway ; p

No probs anyway ; )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok &#8211; I&#8217;ve re-read the bit where he comes out of the station and I&#8217;m the muppet&#8230; went off on a complete tangent&#8230; ne&#8217;er you mind, matey : p  It&#8217;s just always a danger when you write something like this that the reader might have to backtrack a bit.</p>
<p>I think the trick that MacLeod manages is simply this: if it&#8217;s a jacket &#8211; call it a jacket &#8211; just have it do stuff that&#8217;s unusual and be casual about it.<br />
&#8216;My jacket clung annoyingly as it attempted to seal in a little heat&#8217; &#8211; badly worded but you get the idea&#8230;  Then again &#8211; you are trying to cyber it up&#8230; what the hell do i know anyway ; p</p>
<p>No probs anyway ; )</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Sefton</title>
		<link>http://www.futurefragments.com/2007/02/11/fabrication/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Sefton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Very very good old buddy.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Thanks.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Iâ??ve certainly read a whole bunch of published-on-paper stuff thatâ??s come off a lot worse. (anything by Dan Brown being the obvious candidate :p)&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t know whether I should be flattered or offended by a comparison to Dan Brown, even if I come off better LOL


&lt;i&gt;&quot;I found it a bit purple in places - but then I went off and actually wikied purple prose and got this back: â??It also refers to writing that employs certain rhetorical effects such as exaggerated sentiment or pathos in an attempt to manipulate a readerâ??s response.â?? which I really thought was cute in terms of the subject matter. Nice one! :p&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Right, I think I get what you&#039;re saying, in that it&#039;s too flowery in some places. Hmm. Maybe some editing won&#039;t go amiss in that respect. I suspect that&#039;s what editors are for :)

&lt;i&gt;Secondly - for the most part youâ??ve got future slang happening. Cool. But, then in others you have phrases that donâ??t really gel with that - â??black synthetic nano-jacketâ??. Cool. But it begs the question - are there non-synthetic nano-jackets? Maybe from nano-cows? :p&lt;/i&gt;

Right, so I guess your main suggestion here is that there should be some sort of slang term for an item like that, or at least refer to it in a more offhand manner. Makes sense. I actually remember sitting down and thinking, hmmm, what should I call it, and I couldn&#039;t think of anything so I just wrote nano-jacket heh. Lazy, I know, but I didn&#039;t want to force the slang thing too much.

&lt;i&gt;It seems to be trying a little too hard to add to the storyâ??s general plastic feeling.&lt;/i&gt;

Sure, that may well be the case. I suspect I should be a bit more off-handed about certain things instead of trying to elaborate them.

&lt;i&gt;I donâ??t know if youâ??ve read any Ken MacLeod. Iâ??m referring particularly to â??The Cassini Divisionâ??. The great thing about his writing is that he makes the familiar (communism / capitalism / stuff ending in ism) seem extraordinary, whilst making the extraordinary (nanotech) familiar. Blatantly thatâ??s not your purpose, I just mention it because his first person voice when referring to technology is nicely blithe - which you might expect the character here to be since tech appears to be his bag, baby.&lt;/i&gt;

Never read it, but it sounds pretty interesting. I wouldn&#039;t say my purpose is not to make the extra-ordinary ordinary; I think any sci-fi should be like that (extra-ordinary by today&#039;s standards = ordinary by tomorrow&#039;s), and if I haven&#039;t come across like that, that&#039;s a problem that&#039;ll need reworking. I&#039;ll try get a copy of the book

&lt;i&gt;My last semi-quibble is - yes the playback does pretty much make your protagonist out to be a bit of a muppet. Heâ??s paranoid to the eyeballs, but doesnâ??t notice the discrepanciesâ?¦ Are they coming across as too â??loudâ??? Or maybe Iâ??m missing somethingâ?¦.&lt;/i&gt;

This is the one bit I didn&#039;t get ... what discrepancies are you referring to? What&#039;s too loud? Hmm, and if the protagonist comes across as a muppet, that&#039;s not so good :-/

Thanks for taking the time dude, I really appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Very very good old buddy.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Iâ??ve certainly read a whole bunch of published-on-paper stuff thatâ??s come off a lot worse. (anything by Dan Brown being the obvious candidate :p)&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether I should be flattered or offended by a comparison to Dan Brown, even if I come off better LOL</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I found it a bit purple in places &#8211; but then I went off and actually wikied purple prose and got this back: â??It also refers to writing that employs certain rhetorical effects such as exaggerated sentiment or pathos in an attempt to manipulate a readerâ??s response.â?? which I really thought was cute in terms of the subject matter. Nice one! :p&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Right, I think I get what you&#8217;re saying, in that it&#8217;s too flowery in some places. Hmm. Maybe some editing won&#8217;t go amiss in that respect. I suspect that&#8217;s what editors are for <img src='http://www.futurefragments.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><i>Secondly &#8211; for the most part youâ??ve got future slang happening. Cool. But, then in others you have phrases that donâ??t really gel with that &#8211; â??black synthetic nano-jacketâ??. Cool. But it begs the question &#8211; are there non-synthetic nano-jackets? Maybe from nano-cows? :p</i></p>
<p>Right, so I guess your main suggestion here is that there should be some sort of slang term for an item like that, or at least refer to it in a more offhand manner. Makes sense. I actually remember sitting down and thinking, hmmm, what should I call it, and I couldn&#8217;t think of anything so I just wrote nano-jacket heh. Lazy, I know, but I didn&#8217;t want to force the slang thing too much.</p>
<p><i>It seems to be trying a little too hard to add to the storyâ??s general plastic feeling.</i></p>
<p>Sure, that may well be the case. I suspect I should be a bit more off-handed about certain things instead of trying to elaborate them.</p>
<p><i>I donâ??t know if youâ??ve read any Ken MacLeod. Iâ??m referring particularly to â??The Cassini Divisionâ??. The great thing about his writing is that he makes the familiar (communism / capitalism / stuff ending in ism) seem extraordinary, whilst making the extraordinary (nanotech) familiar. Blatantly thatâ??s not your purpose, I just mention it because his first person voice when referring to technology is nicely blithe &#8211; which you might expect the character here to be since tech appears to be his bag, baby.</i></p>
<p>Never read it, but it sounds pretty interesting. I wouldn&#8217;t say my purpose is not to make the extra-ordinary ordinary; I think any sci-fi should be like that (extra-ordinary by today&#8217;s standards = ordinary by tomorrow&#8217;s), and if I haven&#8217;t come across like that, that&#8217;s a problem that&#8217;ll need reworking. I&#8217;ll try get a copy of the book</p>
<p><i>My last semi-quibble is &#8211; yes the playback does pretty much make your protagonist out to be a bit of a muppet. Heâ??s paranoid to the eyeballs, but doesnâ??t notice the discrepanciesâ?¦ Are they coming across as too â??loudâ??? Or maybe Iâ??m missing somethingâ?¦.</i></p>
<p>This is the one bit I didn&#8217;t get &#8230; what discrepancies are you referring to? What&#8217;s too loud? Hmm, and if the protagonist comes across as a muppet, that&#8217;s not so good :-/</p>
<p>Thanks for taking the time dude, I really appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Reg</title>
		<link>http://www.futurefragments.com/2007/02/11/fabrication/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very very good old buddy.  

I&#039;ve certainly read a whole bunch of published-on-paper stuff that&#039;s come off a lot worse.  (anything by Dan Brown being the obvious candidate :p)

But you wanted &#039;The Destructor&#039; (sounds like a Schwartzenegger movie to me, but whatever) and for that reason and only that reason I&#039;m gonna pick a bit.

Two things come to mind... well maybe three.

I found it a bit purple in places - but then I went off and actually wikied purple prose and got this back:

&#039;It also refers to writing that employs certain rhetorical effects such as exaggerated sentiment or pathos in an attempt to manipulate a reader&#039;s response.&#039;

which I really thought was cute in terms of the subject matter. Nice one! :p

Secondly - for the most part you&#039;ve got future slang happening.  Cool.  But, then in others you have phrases that don&#039;t really gel with that - &#039;black synthetic nano-jacket&#039;.  Cool.  But it begs the question - are there non-synthetic nano-jackets?   Maybe from nano-cows?  :p

It seems to be trying a little too hard to add to the story&#039;s general plastic feeling.  

I don&#039;t know if you&#039;ve read any Ken MacLeod. I&#039;m referring particularly to &#039;The Cassini Division&#039;.  The great thing about his writing is that he makes the familiar (communism / capitalism / stuff ending in ism) seem extraordinary, whilst making the extraordinary (nanotech) familiar.  Blatantly that&#039;s not your purpose, I just mention it because his first person voice when referring to technology is nicely blithe - which you might expect the character here to be since tech appears to be his bag, baby.

My last semi-quibble is - yes the playback does pretty much make your protagonist out to be a bit of a muppet.  He&#039;s paranoid to the eyeballs, but doesn&#039;t notice the discrepancies... Are they coming across as too &#039;loud&#039;?  Or maybe I&#039;m missing something....

Â£0.02 please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very very good old buddy.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve certainly read a whole bunch of published-on-paper stuff that&#8217;s come off a lot worse.  (anything by Dan Brown being the obvious candidate :p)</p>
<p>But you wanted &#8216;The Destructor&#8217; (sounds like a Schwartzenegger movie to me, but whatever) and for that reason and only that reason I&#8217;m gonna pick a bit.</p>
<p>Two things come to mind&#8230; well maybe three.</p>
<p>I found it a bit purple in places &#8211; but then I went off and actually wikied purple prose and got this back:</p>
<p>&#8216;It also refers to writing that employs certain rhetorical effects such as exaggerated sentiment or pathos in an attempt to manipulate a reader&#8217;s response.&#8217;</p>
<p>which I really thought was cute in terms of the subject matter. Nice one! :p</p>
<p>Secondly &#8211; for the most part you&#8217;ve got future slang happening.  Cool.  But, then in others you have phrases that don&#8217;t really gel with that &#8211; &#8216;black synthetic nano-jacket&#8217;.  Cool.  But it begs the question &#8211; are there non-synthetic nano-jackets?   Maybe from nano-cows?  :p</p>
<p>It seems to be trying a little too hard to add to the story&#8217;s general plastic feeling.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve read any Ken MacLeod. I&#8217;m referring particularly to &#8216;The Cassini Division&#8217;.  The great thing about his writing is that he makes the familiar (communism / capitalism / stuff ending in ism) seem extraordinary, whilst making the extraordinary (nanotech) familiar.  Blatantly that&#8217;s not your purpose, I just mention it because his first person voice when referring to technology is nicely blithe &#8211; which you might expect the character here to be since tech appears to be his bag, baby.</p>
<p>My last semi-quibble is &#8211; yes the playback does pretty much make your protagonist out to be a bit of a muppet.  He&#8217;s paranoid to the eyeballs, but doesn&#8217;t notice the discrepancies&#8230; Are they coming across as too &#8216;loud&#8217;?  Or maybe I&#8217;m missing something&#8230;.</p>
<p>Â£0.02 please.</p>
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